Posted by: Glenn | August 27, 2007

Prayer Phases

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Lyn, Erin, and Cindy are co-instigators in a new synchroblg, entitled, How Do You Pray? (Lyn, thanks for the invitation.) This sychroblog is open to anyone who cares to participate. So, feel free to jump in. Just remember to link back to one of the afore mentioned individual’s sites.

I have thought about my prayer life in terms of influences and stages that I have gone through. Here they are.

Performance. When I was a pastor I always felt that I had to perform by coming up with a moving and eloquent prayer. Prayer became as demanding and tasking as preaching.

Formulas. ACTS was my favorite (Adoration, Confession, Thanksgiving, Supplication.) I felt that each prayer needed to be balanced. Perhaps, not a bad idea, but too mechanical for me.

Lists. Church prayer meetings and prayer lists in which we went through the whole thing or assigned requests was a common expectation. This one bored me, wore me out, and seemed like vain reputation.

Charismania. Most of my pastor friends were neo-Pentecostals, so I heard some very dramatic, bold prayers in which people would take authority over this and that and boss demons and God around. This had a short-term appeal for me, then it seems as phony as all the above.

“Blessings.” Mealtime prayers have been our family tradition since day one and they have also been a tradition in the churches that I pastored. I found myself droning through them and they too wore me out.

Fasting. I have tried this… a very big thing for me since I am a religious eater. I have felt like the common conception about fasting is an attempt to be manipulative of God. I struggle with Jesus’ words about this kind (of demon) comes out only with prayer and fasting. The Old Testament teaching about fasting for victims of injustice resonates with me.

Pain, Heartache, and Frustration. In the last few years I have felt like the catcher of some totally unexpected curve balls. God, of course is the pitcher in my metaphor, but he never signaled that he was going to through a curve. Now I have grown fond of saying that God throws mostly curves. These things have driven me to honest prayer. I don’t think that it is very pretty nor eloquent prayer, just honest. I have yelled, cried, “hit the wall,” and, at times, had unexplainable peace and joy.

How do I pray? My practice for decades has been to start the day with prayer and try to get my mind focused by getting God’s perspective on things. Usually, I have something of a process that I move through… asking for God’s help to get his take on things, looking back at yesterday and ahead to tomorrow, talking about whatever is on my heart, praying for the people in my life, and trying to “hear” him and figure out what he is “saying.” My favorite prayer postures and places include, kneeling, walking, and in the shower.

Prayer, like so much of our life, especially our religious life, easily get shrouded in pretension and that is a killer for any authentic, intimate relationship. It seems like God shows up when we get real. It’s not some kind of guarantee because sometimes he does not show up, at least, not as far as we can tell or in the way we would like. Though it seems like two lovers in the most intimate of relationships long to hear and speak to each other in deeply honest ways from the depths of their heart.

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  1. Glenn,

    You said, “Prayer, like so much of our life, especially our religious life, easily get shrouded in pretension and that is a killer for any authentic, intimate relationship.” So true! One of the things that I have enjoyed about reading these prayer synchroblogs is that so many people are encouraging me to strip away the pretension. I can hear the Father’s voice in many of these exhortations.

    -Alan

  2. “It seems like God shows up when we get real. It’s not some kind of guarantee because sometimes he does not show up, at least, not as far as we can tell or in the way we would like. Tough it seems as tough two lovers in the most intimate of relationships long to hear and speak to each other in deeply honest ways from the depths of their heart.”

    So true Glenn. I’ve written this somewhere else today, but as Erin wrote, prayer is about getting naked with God. Like all intimate relationships we will have our ups and downs with God too. Thank you for contributing. Great post.

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  4. thank you, glenn. yes, very true. i have also “yelled, cried, “hit the wall,” and, at times, had unexplainable peace and joy”

  5. Glenn – I doubt God even knows how to throw a straight pitch. At least not in my experience. It’s hard, but learning to experience the curve balls helps us not be so shocked when they come.

    I have been through most of the stages you mention. Now I just try to find out where God is at in any given situation and pray with whatever He indicates.

  6. My prayers used to be so formulaic. Now I it is more of a conversation. I also love to pray some of the great prayer in the common book of prayer –although it is “scripted” per se, it doesn’t seem formulaic but thoughtful.

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  9. Alan… I always appreciate your comments. It is strange how we have such a hard tie being real. I guess we fear rejection. That shows how much we are made for community and relationship.

    Lyn… I like what you said about ups and downs. We forget that. When things get a little stressful or it seems God is not listening, or we decide to be a little rebellious; we act as though all is lost. It’s not!

    Cindy… You’ve got to love it when someone is honest, then other people have permission to be honest and healing begins!

    Erin… What you agreed to stands in such contrast to so much of the glowing testimonies in churches. Freedom, relationship, and honesty is better!

    RJLight… Thanks for stopping by! I am glad that you found some great old classic prayers the reflect your heart.

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  11. you know the common thread in the blogs I have read so far, is getting real. Let go of the performance, the pretensions, the incantations … just converse with the Father. It’s good to know that I am in great company with so many who are experiencing the same communion.

  12. Cynthia…

    Welcome! I have noticed the same thing. It is as though we don’t have many answers about prayer, but the whole pretentious thing wore us out and didn’t really honor God either. Now there is room for a new freedom in how we pray.

  13. hey glenn,
    yes the ACTS prayer model was excruciating for me. never cared for it. i know it helps a lot of people, but for me it was like trying to use an algebra equation to speak my heart, and well, i’ve always been terrible at math.

    good stuff here. i’ll be back, yes, that is a threat. :-)

  14. check out my church sometime…www.thebridge-pdx.org be sure to follow the myspace link and lurk around our group forum to get an idea of who we are. i have a feeling you’ll like us.

  15. Pam..

    Welcome back!

    I’m pretty sure that you commented in the early days of RD.

    I took a peak at the The Bridge and am intrigued. I bookmarked it so I can explore more later.

    Counting on you making good on that threat! :)

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  18. This reminds me of the song, “I want to make my life a prayer to you”.

    I loved it back when.

    Thanks for sharing.

  19. Jane- Amen to that!


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