Here is my take on some “negativities” that I have recently encountered.
Racial Slurs
The first person that I talked to when I was in St. Joseph, that wasn’t a hotel employee, was a sales clerk at Penny’s. As I am buying slacks, he somehow segues the conversation to Mexicans. For the life of me, can’t remember how he got off on that topic.
There are getting to be a lot of Mexicans here, you know. I have had them come here and they don’t know a word of English. They are here illegally. Wouldn’t you love to live in a building with them?
A new meat processing plant has lured some Mexicans to this Midwestern town previously untouched by the immigration influx.
My intelligent response was, Hmmm…
Someone I love dearly referred to my primary vote for president (Obama) as “dark.” I have been away from that kind of talk so long that I had to think about what she meant.
I ignored it.
How would you respond?
Church Politics
My dad informed on the latest in local church and denominational politics, including how committees are supposed to function and how an old family friend has betrayed the denomination by heading up a rival group.
My brilliant response was, again, Hmmm…, though I was exceeding glad that opted out of this nonsense a long time ago.
How would you respond?
Serving It Up
It seems that how the pastor preaches has long been a matter of great debate among seasoned church goers. In my experience as a pastor, it seems that people really liked the way I preached, or at least, those were the only ones that said anything, that is, until my third church. I once received an anonymous note complaining that in the last several sermons, I had spoken about my life, my kids, and my dog and he just wanted “the word.” Each of those sermons was loaded with scripture and may have even been expository, but I illustrated the truth of scripture and examined the implications of it by using personal experiences.
At the same church, a guy walked up to me when I was wearing a sweater instead of a coat and tie and asked if I was preaching like that. He is the same guy that made sure the music stand that I was using to hold my notes was promptly replaced by the big, old regular pulpit.
As I have written before, I love Steve Brown’s podcast of Steve Brown, Etc. As the program breaks away to commercials, there is often a recording of someone who has called in that absolutely hates the program. One woman says that she finds nothing redeeming about it at all, but tunes in to see what he is talking about and then abruptly changes the station. She goes on to say that she is not sure he is even a Christian. Another clip claims it is an attempt at entertainment that fails. When one listens to this program filled with grace, really good information, and lots of humor, these recorded complaints sound stupid.
I wonder why some Christians have tried to give entertainment such a bad name, when it refreshes the soul. It is not all garbage. Often I find God in a good movie, concert, or story, more than I do in a church service.
I wonder why Christians have gotten so persnickety about how their explanation of biblical teaching is served up to them by their trained professionals. It just sounds lazy and childish to me.
I was feeling a tad self righteous, until I realized I like it served up a certain way too. I prefer a discussion, rather than a monologue.
What do you think is the best way to respond to this and other negativities that we tend to encounter in the church world?







Steve Brown’s ‘A Scandalous Freedom’ was entirely instrumental for me…I have heard mention of his podcast before, so now I have to check it out.
Sorry you ran into these conversations…I don’t have any better responses than “Hmm”. Sometimes I think that’s the best response.
Last week a friend from my CLB called to invite us to the Major Easter Production, and I couldn’t find the words to explain why that didn’t interest me (us) anymore, so I responded with “Hmm, well we’re actually going to be out of town” — which was the truth…I really just wanted to try to explain, but knew it would be a waste of breath.
How is your Communitas going?
By: Erin on March 30, 2008
at 12:56 pm
You were right and so is Erin – “Hmmm” is often the only response, unless you want to get into an argument right there, right then. I have to say “Hmmm” a lot at family gatherings and a LOT at work, where I work with some out-and-out bigots (in a state-wide entity with 30 branch offices and over 200 employees and not a single “person of color” – hmmm). Like my mom said of living in Texas, the Civil War may have ended over 140 years ago but you wouldn’t necessarily know it.
As far as the “church” stuff goes I am in the midst of my own full-on crisis with institutional church, so I can be no help there. I’m at that point where it isn’t how the pastor delivers his message that’s bothering me – it’s whether there should be such a thing as paid clergy at all. Not much you can say about that while attending institutional church except “Hmmm”. It was one of the minor reasons I resigned from the human care board. “They will know we are Christians by our parliamentary procedures”.
Would’ve been nice to hook up with you while you were in MO, but it’s a big state.
By: Jim on March 30, 2008
at 2:48 pm
I guess the song said “Accentuate the positive”.
I’ll admit that all too often I’ll say “Hmmm”, for an easy life, but those moments when I find the courage to say something tangential and positive (”but, you know, the other day, I heard this…”; “I see what you’re saying, but I did once have this experience…” etc.), are usually very rewarding. It’s tough to get right, because to avoid the head-to-head thing, you almost have to agree with the other person before you can inject the little ray of happiness. But I’m pretty sure that the non-direct approach is usually the way to win people over.
By: Andrew on March 30, 2008
at 3:53 pm
OTOH … with the sales clerk who you’ll never see again, there’s no harm done in speaking out as a prophet. Maybe asking a question … such as, “Hmmm what makes you think they’re illegal?” Not every hispanic is … or … “Who do you think might take those low paying jobs if the immigrants were not here?” It is, after all, a conversation and the ball gets to pass back and forth between the players.
With your relative and the comment about the “dark” vote … I might ask him/her what s/he meant by that … it would depend on how sassy I was feeling at the time (of course). I’d want to know more about what was driving that comment … in any case.
About church … I’m getting further and further away from the need/desire/etc for a single person entertainment/lecturer/educator paradigm. I think it’s substantially flawed and blocks the role of the Holy Spirt and the gifts of the Body. It also gives people too much to complain about. But that’s just where I am at the moment.
By: sonja on March 30, 2008
at 6:02 pm
Erin- I have been distracted from Communitas Collective lately with a couple of trips, but I am going through a book that is helping me think through things in more detail which I really needed and I am building a network of people who can contribute ideas. I think too that I will do something on the blog soon to get input. Thanks for asking. I am wanting to launch pretty soon.
Jim- Maybe some day, we will get down that way or you will be up this way. “Hmmm” keeps one from sounding self righteous or preaching without agreeing.
Andrew- Very wise. It reminds me of a scripture about knowing how to answer and letting our words be seasoned.
Sonja- Good ideas. I am at about the same place when it comes to preachers.
By: Glenn on March 30, 2008
at 10:14 pm
In response to your post today I agreed I find Jesus in the most unusual places. For example tonight I attended a Celtic Woman concert in Kansas City and right in the middle of the Sprint Center God touched my heart through song. Have you ever heard “The Blessing”? An awesome song!! I prefer to find Jesus in the unusual places.
By: Marcia on March 31, 2008
at 1:10 am
Marcia ~
I have heard portions of that production on public television. I’ll make a note of the song and seek it out.
When you think about, God is everywhere. He loves the people of the world and is active in their lives and in culture. We can’t box him in, even in our church sub culture.
By: Glenn on March 31, 2008
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